Thursday, March 9, 2023

NDE Lifestyle

NDE or near death experience is where a person dies and comes back. Usually seeing heaven or hell or both. Jesus had two NDEs put in the bible so we must take them seriously. 

Lazarus's experience with 

the rich young ruler and the poor man

The Rich Man and Lazarus

19 “There was a rich man who was dressed in purple and fine linen and lived in luxury every day. 20 At his gate was laid a beggar named Lazarus, covered with sores 21 and longing to eat what fell from the rich man’s table. Even the dogs came and licked his sores.

22 “The time came when the beggar died and the angels carried him to Abraham’s side. The rich man also died and was buried. 23 In Hades, where he was in torment, he looked up and saw Abraham far away, with Lazarus by his side. 24 So he called to him, ‘Father Abraham, have pity on me and send Lazarus to dip the tip of his finger in water and cool my tongue, because I am in agony in this fire.’

25 “But Abraham replied, ‘Son, remember that in your lifetime you received your good things, while Lazarus received bad things, but now he is comforted here and you are in agony. 26 And besides all this, between us and you a great chasm has been set in place, so that those who want to go from here to you cannot, nor can anyone cross over from there to us.’

27 “He answered, ‘Then I beg you, father, send Lazarus to my family, 28 for I have five brothers. Let him warn them, so that they will not also come to this place of torment.’

29 “Abraham replied, ‘They have Moses and the Prophets; let them listen to them.’

30 “‘No, father Abraham,’ he said, ‘but if someone from the dead goes to them, they will repent.’

31 “He said to him, ‘If they do not listen to Moses and the Prophets, they will not be convinced even if someone rises from the dead.’”

Jesus's NDE own experience written in 1st Peter 3:19

1 Peter 3:19-20 English Standard Version 19 in which[ a] he went and proclaimed[ b] to the spirits in prison, 20 because[ c] they formerly did not obey, when God's patience waited in the days of Noah, while the ark was being prepared, in which a few, that is, eight persons, were brought safely through water.

Repentance and the Lord being a savior are part of his infinite spectrum. I believe on sin has a sentence, just as breaking laws on earth has a sentence. But if you sin in hell your sentence is longer.

But if your sentenced, the Lord may still minister to someone in hell. They just can't make their sentence less(giving water on the man's tongue). People were still there talking so ministering the gospel is still possible. 1 Peter 3:19 ESV People may tell the gospel but the only thing that can rescue them is repentance in Jesus. He also may keep people in there for wanting to scheme after they leave hell. Repentance is an eternal concept. God trusts them if they leave hell in the NDEs I see. Some want love and love covers a multitude of sins and if a person loves they are born of God. 

I have seen both in NDEs. But angels visit hell for sentencing Satan's army and they may go down to hell to rescue people like Jesus emptied hell to those that repented from Noah's time at the cross. 1 peter 3:19 In a glorified body we can go anywhere according to visions I have had. So if people can choose hell they may(prespective doctrine) choose heaven over hell. 

 People won't entertain their works in heaven because it is a form of boasting. So we shouldn't do boasting with our faith and instead of saying I did it. It is more what he done and we rest in that. Once saved always saved isn't an argument in heaven or the counter that person chooses to be with or against him. We don't entertain our works because its boasting So we should stick to that for a eternal perspective. People understand that as the ultimate perspective.

Our heavenly works count as credit but we don't boast about our decision, just what God has done.

Our decision and how we have made it, glorifies God more if he is given the credit.

We receive impartations from heaven. I get them from time to time. This is what the Lord has done. Heaven declared working in your favor is not boasting it is declaring what he has done. Miracles happen with prayer all the time. People get healed by Jesus. Heaven is always working with the saints on anything that is heaven's agenda. 

The chasm that Abraham talked about isn't a problem for Jesus. He can go anywhere so can the Holy Spirit and given permission his people and the angels. The Lord looks to and frow throughout the earth. It doesn't mean he doesn't do this everywhere. The chasm may exist differently now. It does talk about a new heaven and new earth a few times in scripture. So what was there may have changed. There is even NDEs about remodeling in heaven.

Look at this book by David Suich, "God Took My Clothes" Now this compiled 700 NDE testimonies. Some of it would be considered liberal doctrine but he does things as aspects that it is a glory in information. I also got 'atmospherely healed' like I was in heaven twice. Revival effects the atmosphere sometimes. The only thing I didn't like is the lack of scientific backing to keep bad people from lieing, reflecting bad doctrine on purpose. We don't want universalisms that are not right. I did like the psychological analysis of NDErs. "He said many came back psychic, altered senses with heightened sensitivity," usually in the prophetic world it is how a new person to the prophetic explains a prophet. However psychics do things by imperfect divination and prophets do things by God's voice. But I know a NDEr really well and was discipled by him. I literally asked him thousands of questions. The book described him and me a lot. I grew a lot by it. If you want me to go into more detail about this let me know in the comments below.

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